1. Jacket 7 - Graham Foust On Jack Spicer JACKET SEVEN CONTENTS HOMEPAGE. Graham Foust Listening to Poetry JackSpicer and the fiftiethanniversary issue of Poetry (Chicago). Spicer, Jack. http://jacketmagazine.com/07/spicer-foust.html

C O N T E N T S H O M E P A G E Graham Foust Listening to Poetry : Jack Spicer and the fiftieth-anniversary issue of Poetry (Chicago) In other words, if you publish in Poetry magazine, it's great. You get paid money. You get people reading it all through the country. But, in the long run, if you're participating in one of these things, then you have to say "yeah, I read Poetry myself" - Poetry magazine, that is - which I don't, and wouldn't, because I don't believe in the society that it creates. - Jack Spicer, "Poetry and Politics" (July 14, 1965) I N HIS ESSAY "Spicer's Language ," Ron Silliman observes that Jack Spicer's third poem "for Poetry Chicago" ("In the far, fat Vietnamese jungle nothing grows") contains what is likely a reference to John Berryman's "Dream Song 27" ("The greens of the Ganges delta foliate"), which appeared in the fiftieth-anniversary double issue of Poetry. Silliman's observation serves to illustrate his claim that although the covers of Spicer's Language and Book of Magazine Verse share a format (both books mimic the covers of specific magazines

2. Small Press Traffic > Jack Spicer Jack Spicer's Ecotopia A Celebration a tribute with readings by James Alexander,David Bromige, Wesley Day, Lew Ellingham, Gerald Fabian, Nemi Frost, Larry http://www.sptraffic.org/html/authors/spicer.html

events new writing book reviews author biographies ... links Jack Spicer's Ecotopia: A Celebration a tribute with readings by James Alexander, David Bromige, Wesley Day, Lew Ellingham, Gerald Fabian, Nemi Frost, Larry Kearney, Joanne Kyger, Alvin William Moore, Mary Rice Moore, John Norton, Ariel Parkinson, James Schevill, Richard Tagett November 6, 1998 Jack Spicer (1925-1965), one of the most important postmodern poets, was born in Los Angeles but worte most of his major work here in San Francisco, where he died at age 40. Spicer was the center of an active community of poets and visual artists who roved from North Beach to Aquatic Park, Polk Gulch to Candlestick Park. A passionate nevironmentalist and city theorist, Spicer wrote: "True conservation is the effort of the artist and the private man to keep things true ... Death is not final. Only parking lots." Two new books explore Spicer's legacy: The House That Jack Built: The Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer , edited by Peter Gizzi, and a biography, Poet Be Like God: Jack Spicer and the San Francisco Renaissance , by Lew Ellingham and Kevin Killian (both volumes from Wesleyan University Press/University Presses of New England). Tonight, Ellingham, Gizzi and Killian will appear and discuss their books, then turn over the floor to many of Jack Spicer's contemporaries artists, writers, thinkers who will each read from his work. "Our city shall stand as the lumber rots and Runcible mountain crumbles, and the ocean, eating all of islands, comes to meet us."

3. EPC/Spicer Author Home Page jack spicer 30 January, 1925 17 August, 1965 Reprinted from THE COLLECTEDBOOKS OF jack spicer with the permission of Black Sparrow Press. http://wings.buffalo.edu/epc/authors/spicer/

Jack Spicer 30 January, 1925 - 17 August, 1965 "To Mr. R D, the only getter of this photograph" Online Works Poems: A Postscript to the Berkeley Renaissance The Unvert Manifesto and Other Papers Found in the Rare Book Room of the Boston Public Library in the Handwriting of Oliver Charming. By S. Three Marxist Essays from After Lorca Second letter to Federico Garcia Lorca from Admonitions Letter #1 Letter #2 from Language This ocean, humiliating in its disguises SPORTING LIFE from Book of Magazine Verse Six Poems for Poetry Chicago , poems #1-4 Page edited by Christopher W. Alexander, June 1998 Send a Comment Search Home Electronic Poetry Center ( http://epc.buffalo.edu

4. Three Anagrams Of Jack Spicer's Biography Three Anagrams of jack spicer's Biography Biog To Peel Ked To show you where James Joyce stood with the literary establishment as of 1959, the Times's (which Times? http://www.kokonino.com/spicer-bio.html

Three Anagrams of Jack Spicer's Biography Biog To Peel Ked To show you where James Joyce stood with the literary establishment as of 1959, the Times 's (which Times The Times ) review of the first edition of Richard Ellman's biography opined: "If Joyce be a great writer, then this be a great book." And Ellman's publishers were so desperate that they had to use it as a blurb. Well, we know who finally won that little point. After all, how many books criticizing the gender politics of the London Times do you see in bookstores? Too few, that's for sure. And so we see that, even though it might take a while, a big fat scholarly biography is necessary to make a big fat writer socially acceptable. Why necessary? First, because grad students like to cite things. But also to keep us from getting too distracted by questions like "Did Samuel Beckett maintain one boil for a very long time or did many shorter-lived boils infest him in sequence?" That way we can enjoy the writer's work while we're reading it without worrying that we'll be left without something nasty to say about the writer at parties. Lew Ellingham's and Kevin Killian's biography of Jack Spicer does its job well. It's a tough job, a dirty job, a thankless job. But, by Poet, they did it, as proven by the confused boredom of reviewers and the prickly offense of friends. As for myself, all my vulgar curiosities have been sated and put away for the winter, and I'm much the better for it.

5. OAC: Finding Aids Browse UC San Diego Mandeville Special Collections Library spicer(jack) Collected poems. spicer (jack) Collected poems. Title jack spicer. http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf2g5004wr

Spicer (Jack) Collected poems Finding Aids Browse UC San Diego Mandeville Special Collections Library Spicer (Jack) Collected poems Spicer (Jack) Collected poems View options: Standard Entire finding aid (3K bytes) Contents: DESCRIPTIVE SUMMARY ADMINISTRATIVE INFORMATION BIOGRAPHY SCOPE AND CONTENT DESCRIPTIVE SUMMARY Title: Jack Spicer. Collected poems., 1945-1946 Collection number: MSS 0397 Extent: 0.10 linear feet (1 volume (29 p.) in one folder.) Repository: Mandeville Special Collections Library, Geisel Library, UC, San Diego La Jolla, CA 92093-0175 Shelf Location: For current information on the location of these materials, please consult the Library's online catalog. To access these materials, please contact the contributing institution: UC San Diego, Mandeville Special Collections Library Comments? Questions? The Online Archive of California (OAC) is an initiative of the California Digital Library

6. OAC: Finding Aids Browse UC San Diego Mandeville Special Collections Library spicer(jack). You, Apollo.. spicer (jack). You, Apollo.. View options http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf5p3007td

Spicer (Jack). You, Apollo.. Finding Aids Browse UC San Diego Mandeville Special Collections Library Spicer (Jack). You, Apollo.. Spicer (Jack). You, Apollo.. View options: Standard Entire finding aid (3K bytes) Contents: DESCRIPTIVE SUMMARY Administrative Information BIOGRAPHY SCOPE AND CONTENT DESCRIPTIVE SUMMARY Title: Jack Spicer. You, Apollo..., 1949 Collection number: MSS 0316 Extent: 0.10 linear feet (2 items (2 leaves) in one folder.) Repository: Mandeville Special Collections Library, Geisel Library, UC, San Diego La Jolla, CA 92093-0175 Shelf Location: For current information on the location of these materials, please consult the Library's online catalog. To access these materials, please contact the contributing institution: UC San Diego, Mandeville Special Collections Library Comments? Questions? The Online Archive of California (OAC) is an initiative of the California Digital Library

7. Jack Spicer: Bio Notes & Publications "Thing Language". by jack spicer. This ocean, humiliating in its disguises http://wings.buffalo.edu/epc/authors/spicer/spicer-pub.html

Jack Spicer: Publications Spicer has a relatively complex history of publication, given that several of his books were published only posthumously; these mss. were either withheld or appeared during his lifetime in small poetry zines. The following bibliography has been arranged by category and in roughly chronological order of publication. Some of the books have gone through various permutations after Spicer's death (mostly new editions by different publishers, but with a peculiar instability re title etcetera); only the most familiar editions appear. For a more expansive list, cf. the bibliography in California Librarian (full citation below) and Robin Blaser's detailed bibliography in The Collected Books After Lorca (San Francisco: White Rabbit Press, Nov-Dec 1957) Homage to Creeley (Annapolis, CA: privately printed by Harold and Dore Dull, Summer 1959) Billy the Kid (Stinson Beach CA: Enkidu Surrogate, Oct 1959) illus. Jess Collins. The Heads of the Town Up to the Aether (SF: The Auerhahn Society, 1962) illus. Fran Herndon Lament for the Makers (Oakland: White Rabbit Press, 1962) illus. Graham Mackintosh

8. Spicer ZASTERLE jack spicer. The Train of Thought. Gran Canaria ZasterlePress, 1994. The morning before Slingbot's party, Ralston had http://webpages.ull.es/users/mbrito/spicer.htm

ZASTERLE Jack Spicer The Train of Thought Gran Canaria: Zasterle Press, 1994. The morning before Slingbot's party, Ralston had a dream.It was not a nice dream and, for that matter, the hotel bed was not a nice bed to dream in. He was a large city on acoast (rather like Atlantic City) and was about to build a large apartment house out of sand. The beach from which he was to gather the sand was covered with bench umbrellas which were of every color that anyone, even in a dream, could possibly imagine and he could see the gray water behind the beach umbrellas slopping away at its own purposes. Illustration by Zush ISBN 84-87467-14-8 Home Page Bruce Andrews Dennis Barone Tom Beckett ... Other Links

9. Jacket 7 - Peter Gizzi - Introduction To Jack Spicer's 3rd Peter Gizzi     Introduction to jack spicer's 3rd Vancouver Lecture ( June 17  1965 ) http://www.jacket.zip.com.au/jacket07/spicer-lect3intro.html

C O N T E N T S H O M E P A G E "Poetry in Process and Book of Magazine Verse " This piece is about five printed pages long. T Vancouver lecture is in many ways the most contrary and least accessible of Spicer's lectures, but it may also be the one that most repays the study it requires. On the surface, the lecture strays and rambles, but interspersed in the repartee of questions and answers are some of Spicer's most interesting and enigmatic statements on his art. Prism and Tish [ Note: Prism , later called Prism International , was a literary magazine connected with the Creative Writing Program at the University of British Columbia. Tish , edited by Frank Davey, George Bowering, David Dawson, Jamie Reid, and Fred Wah, was founded in 1961 partly as a reaction against Prism and partly in response to Robert Duncan's then recent series of lectures. Warren Tallman wrote of the Tish scene: "the Tish poets were very much like the fools who rush in where more cautious men fear to tread. And did rush in, managing to create a wonderfully garbled, goofy, and in many ways ludicrous Vancouver version of the poetics Duncan had turned loose. But great energy and liveliness were exerted, interesting poems were written, and talent had a favorable milieu in which to gain footing and grow"(25).] Again, it is important to realize that Spicer repeatedly creates and sustains around him a vortex of dissent, but he is no less utopian in his thinking because of it. In many ways, dissent is Spicer's utopia. Since a community of heterogeneous members could never live in agreement without becoming a tyranny, it seems the only hope would be to value instead its disagreements, to see argument as progressive, and to create a context for heterodoxy.

10. Jacket 7 - Rob Wilson - Tracking Jack Spicer Br For the poetry of ‘jack spicer after jack spicer’ (as it is with the culturalmaterialpoetics/theory of ‘Marx after Marx’ or ‘Gramsci after Gramsci http://jacketmagazine.com/07/spicer-wilson.html

C O N T E N T S H O M E P A G E Rob Wilson Tracking Jack Spicer "After Jack Spicer": The Poetics of the Lowghost/Logos The "Afterlife" of a US Counter-Poetics This piece is 1300 words or about three printed pages long. P OETRY, if it is any good in the sheer dialogical terms of uncanny otherness, comes from the discourse of the far future. The language of poetry can speak, again and again, the contemporary crisis that is ‘postmodernity.’ That is to say, poetry arises out of and speaks not so much from the liberal-humanistic ego terms of the romantic past, but from within the syntax and diction ( discourse ) of a post-war, "post-humanist" future as yet unknown and unsaid.       This US future in Spicer speaks through the "un/American" language of the poet who is not just speaking the voice of himself/herself, but more likely bespeaking (or trying at pains to express) what Barrett Watten (like Fredric Jameson in another, more sublime key) has theorized as the "total syntax" of our social-structural situation. Writing the contemporary , so to speak, from within its language binds and discontinuous bounds.

11. Jacket 7 - Rob Wilson - Tracking Jack Spicer Tracking jack spicer "After jack spicer" The Poetics of the Lowghost/Logos The "Afterlife" of a US CounterPoetics This piece is 1300 words or about three printed pages long. http://www.zip.com.au/~jtranter/jacket07/spicer-wilson.html

J A C K E T # C O N T E N T S H O M E P A G E Rob Wilson Tracking Jack Spicer "After Jack Spicer": The Poetics of the Lowghost/Logos The "Afterlife" of a US Counter-Poetics This piece is 1300 words or about three printed pages long. P OETRY, if it is any good in the sheer dialogical terms of uncanny otherness, comes from the discourse of the far future. The language of poetry can speak, again and again, the contemporary crisis that is ‘postmodernity.’ That is to say, poetry arises out of and speaks not so much from the liberal-humanistic ego terms of the romantic past, but from within the syntax and diction ( discourse ) of a post-war, "post-humanist" future as yet unknown and unsaid. This US future in Spicer speaks through the "un/American" language of the poet who is not just speaking the voice of himself/herself, but more likely bespeaking (or trying at pains to express) what Barrett Watten (like Fredric Jameson in another, more sublime key) has theorized as the "total syntax" of our social-structural situation. Writing the contemporary , so to speak, from within its language binds and discontinuous bounds.

12. University Press Of New England | The House That Jack Built The House That jack Built The Collected Lectures of jack spicer spicer, jack. Illuminatesjack spicer’s provocative lectures on radical poetics. http://www.dartmouth.edu/acad-inst/upne/0-8195-6340-4.html

The House That Jack Built The Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer Spicer, Jack. Peter Gizzi, ed. and afterword The House That Jack Built collects for the first time the four historic talks given by controversial poet Jack Spicer just before his early death in 1965. These lively and provocative lectures function as a gloss to Spicer's own poetry, a general discourse on poetics, and a cautionary handbook for young poets. This long-awaited document of Spicer's unorthodox poetic vision, what Robin Blaser has called "the practice of outside," is an authoritative edition of an underground classic. Peter Gizzi's afterword elucidates some of the fundamental issues of Spicer's poetry and lectures, including the concept of poetic dictation, which Spicer renovates with vocabularies of popular culture: radio, Martians, and baseball; his use of the California landscape as a backdrop for his poems; and his visual imagination in relation to the aesthetics of west-coast funk assemblage. This book delivers a firsthand account of the contrary and turbulent poetics that define Spicer's ongoing contribution to an international avant-garde. PETER GIZZI is the author of the poetry collections Artificial Heart (1997) and Periplum (1992), and he is the recipient of a Lavan Younger Poets Award from the Academy of American Poets. He is Assistant Professor of Literature and Creative Writing at the University of California, Santa Cruz

13. University Press Of New England | The House That Jack Built The House That jack Built The Collected Lectures of jack spicer spicer, jack. Peter Gizzi, ed. and afterword Illuminates jack spicers provocative lectures on radical poetics. The House That jack Built collects for the first time the four historic http://www.upne.com/0-8195-6340-4.html

The House That Jack Built The Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer Spicer, Jack. Peter Gizzi, ed. and afterword The House That Jack Built collects for the first time the four historic talks given by controversial poet Jack Spicer just before his early death in 1965. These lively and provocative lectures function as a gloss to Spicer's own poetry, a general discourse on poetics, and a cautionary handbook for young poets. This long-awaited document of Spicer's unorthodox poetic vision, what Robin Blaser has called "the practice of outside," is an authoritative edition of an underground classic. Peter Gizzi's afterword elucidates some of the fundamental issues of Spicer's poetry and lectures, including the concept of poetic dictation, which Spicer renovates with vocabularies of popular culture: radio, Martians, and baseball; his use of the California landscape as a backdrop for his poems; and his visual imagination in relation to the aesthetics of west-coast funk assemblage. This book delivers a firsthand account of the contrary and turbulent poetics that define Spicer's ongoing contribution to an international avant-garde. PETER GIZZI is the author of the poetry collections Artificial Heart (1997) and Periplum (1992), and he is the recipient of a Lavan Younger Poets Award from the Academy of American Poets. He is Assistant Professor of Literature and Creative Writing at the University of California, Santa Cruz

14. University Press Of New England | Title/Author Index Pemberton, Gayle. The House That jack Built The Collected Lectures ofjack spicer, spicer, jack. Peter Gizzi, ed. and afterword. How Charlie http://www.dartmouth.edu/acad-inst/upne/title_index_0011.html

Complete Title/Author index Previous A B C ... H.D. Woman and Poet King, Michael, ed. The Hair of Harold Roux Williams, Thomas. The Half-Inch Himalayas Ali, Agha Shahid Halfway Down the Hall New and Selected Poems Hadas, Rachel Halo Berg, Stephen Hands-On Nature Information and Activities for Exploring the Environment with Children Lingelbach, Jenepher, and Lisa Purcell, eds. Susan Sawyer, illus. Harbor of Refuge Being the Recreation of Four Seasons of an Offshore Lighthouse from the Authentic Journal of S. P. Jones, S.N Jones, Stephen Hard Bottom A Novel Michelsen, G. F. The Life and Legacy of Woody Guthrie Santelli, Robert, and Emily Davidson, eds The Harness Mangan, Pat The Heart Is a Little to the Left Essays on Public Morality Coffin, William Sloane Heart Work Poems Dolin, Sharon Heaven Essbaum, Jill Alexander Hebrew and the Bible in America The First Two Centuries Goldman, Shalom, ed. Selections from the Frederick R. Koch Collection at Yale University Giroud, Vincent The Heirs of Columbus Vizenor, Gerald Hemispheres Poems Schulman, Grace Herb Garden Design Swanson, Faith H., and Virginia B. Rady

15. Lewis Ellingham's POET, BE LIKE GOD : Container List 8, 6, Wixman, Myrsam, 1982. 8, 7, spicer, jack, 1965. Poetry and Politics . 8,8, spicer, jack, 1965. Poetry and Politics . 8, 9, spicer, jack. Vancouver lecture. http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/testing/html/mss0126f.html

Container List for Lewis Ellingham's POET, BE LIKE GOD Part 1 SERIES 1: Interviews Series 1A: Transcripts and Related Materials Box Folder Blaser, Robin, 1983. Telephone interview from San Francisco to Vancouver Blaser, Robin, 1983. "Opposition in the Life and Work of Jack Spicer"; fragments of a telephone interview with Blaser; galley proof for New Apologies, issue #1 Blaser, Robin, 1983. Notes and partial transcript of conversation between Blaser and Ellingham in San Francisco Bernstein, Charles. Letter to Ellingham about interview of Robin Blaser Watson, Scott. Letter to Ellingham about interview of Robin Blaser Borregaard, Ebbe and Kyger, Joanne, 1982. In Bolinas, California Brodecky, Bill, 1982. In San Francisco, CA Chugg, Gail, 1982. Also includes pre-recorded stories and incidents from Chugg's "The Company of Men" Chugg, Gail. "The Company of Men: A Recital for Six Actors and an Audience" written by Chugg Chugg, Gail, 1984. Letter from Chugg to Ellingham Connor, Bob, 1982. In Berkeley, CA includes typescript letter to Connor from Ellingham Duerden, Richard, 1982. In San Francisco includes letter to Duerden from Ellingham

16. Jack Spicer. You, Apollo... : Scope/Content jack spicer. You, Apollo Scope / Content Note. Two instances ofa poem posthumously published in spicer's ONE NIGHT STAND (1980). http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/testing/html/mss0316e.html

Jack Spicer. You, Apollo... Scope / Content Note Two instances of a poem posthumously published in spicer's ONE NIGHT STAND (1980). One is a corrected holograph in graphite, the other an uncorrected typescript. both mss. are dated 1949. Title Page Processing History Location Biography / History

17. Jack Spicer, "Thing Language" (This is the first poem in the sequence Thing Language.). Thing Language byJack spicer. This ocean, humiliating in its disguises Tougher than anything. http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/spicer-this-lang.html

(This is the first poem in the sequence Thing Language "Thing Language" by Jack Spicer This ocean, humiliating in its disguises Tougher than anything. No one listens to poetry. The ocean Does not mean to be listened to. A drop Or crash of water. It means Nothing. It Is bread and butter Pepper and salt. The death That young men hope for. Aimlessly It pounds the shore. White and aimless signals. No One listens to poetry. SEARCH POETRY HOME ENGLISH 88 READING LIST POETRY NEWS ... FILREIS HOME Document URL: http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/spicer-this-lang.html Last modified: Thursday, 08-Jun-2000 13:35:55 EDT

18. Cover Design Of The House That Jack Built The Collected Lectures jack spicer cover design of The House That jack Built The Collected Lecturesof jack spicer, ed. Peter Gizzi (Wesleyan/New England, 1998). http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88v/spicer.html

Jack Spicer cover design of The House That Jack Built: The Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer , ed. Peter Gizzi (Wesleyan/New England, 1998) brief biography from Spicer's lecture "Dictation and 'A Textbook of Poetry'" (1965), an excerpt on composition by "dictation" passages from Ron Silliman's essay "Spicer's Language" Spicer, "A Red Wheelbarrow" Spicer, two sections from Fifteen False Propositions Against God a poem from the sequence "Thing Language" two sections from Spicer's poem "Phonemics" supplemental/optional readings: introduction to Spicer's third Vancouver lecture, 1965 excerpt from the third lecture Spicer: "Words are things which just happen to be in your head instead of someone else's head." navigate 88 schedule key home PAPERs ... m a i l the s t a f f

19. Jacket 7 - Jack Spicer’s Hell In Homage To Creeley Kristin Prevallet jack spicer’s Hell in Homage to Creeley . Codes CB=The CollectedBooks of jack spicer, edited by Robin Blaser (Black Sparrow, 1975). http://www.jacket.zip.com.au/jacket07/spicer-prevallet.html

C O N T E N T S H O M E P A G E in "Homage to Creeley" In Hell, Blake found himself in a printing house and "saw the method in which knowledge is transmitted from generation to generation"(Erdman, 40). In hell Jack Spicer found the way in which knowledge is transmitted to poets, and scared himself, and all of his friends. Through the Heads of the Town runs "the business of the pathway down into Hell and the methods of communication"(HJB, 19). Spicer said that "Homage to Creeley / Explanatory Notes" the first poetic composition in the 3-part book The Heads of the Town Up to the Aether is analogous with Dante’s "Inferno." No wise Virgil, it is Orpheus, Eurydice, and Heurtebise those dysfunctional guides upon whom Spicer relies as he forges ahead into this strange poetic concoction. Hell is not a landscape, and love is not a sentiment. Both are words, first and foremost, that drive the poems through the rhymes and puns they catalyze. The poems are a machine that turns the poet inside out in his effort to hear transmissions which will take him from one place to another. Hell is not a place, but a flaming billboard where the words H-E-L-L appear for the rhyme, and go along for the ride. Two loves I had. One rang a bell

20. Jacket 7 - Jack Spicer - Vancouver Lecture 3 jack spicer Excerpt from Vancouver Lecture 3 ( June 17, 1965 ) Poetryin Process and Book of Magazine Verse . jack spicer Well, both. http://www.jacket.zip.com.au/jacket07/spicer-lect3main.html

C O N T E N T S H O M E P A G E Jack Spicer Excerpt from Vancouver Lecture 3 "Poetry in Process and Book of Magazine Verse " This piece is 5,200 words or about thirteen printed pages long. The notes are at the end of the file. Warren Tallman: Jack, in a lot of his poems, Yeats simply out-and-out explicates and tries to demonstrate that we live in a non-tragic universe. Do you have a sense that the news coming to you is of a non-tragic nature or of a tragic nature, or does that figure at all in your work? Jack Spicer: "No kid, don't enter here." That's the answer. I don't know if it's tragic or not, but I just know that you better make certain that you don't get in on the things unless you really want to pay the price for them. WT: Are you speaking there of the poet or what will come to the poet? Jack Spicer: Well, both. I think that anyone's a fool to become a junkie or a poet. Q: Why both? Jack Spicer: Well, it's the same kind of hook really, and it has the same withdrawal symptoms if you ever try it. Q: How about the fool?

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