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The universe of Neverness is and filled with extraordinary beings, such as the neanderthal-like Alaloi and the Order of Pilots. Against this backdrop stands Mallory Ringer, who penetrates the Solid State Entity. There he makes a discovery. One that could unlock the secret of immortality. ... Read more

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Transcendence?
I have read this book perhaps more times than I ought.It paints a world that is so magical, so beautiful, and so real that I want to trade my life here to go to Neverness and not come back.This is what makes this book so impressive, David Zindell really brings it all together.The sociological aspects, the different way to view math, the very culture is completely alien, yet strangely familiar.

Set into this the concept of transcendence, can a man (or Warrior-Poet), become Gods?Can we cast off what limits us as humans and become more.More than that, we go on the quest to become God with Mallory.We see through his eyes, we go on his quest.

By reading this novel, we do become more than what we are.We become someone else and it is intoxicating.

Rich with Hidden Meaning
I first read "Neverness" about 7 years ago, and was utterly amazed by it. I remember thinking that many of the unformed questions I had about life were somehow anticipated and symbolised by the various characters of this book. It was an inspiring work that encouraged me in the search for meaning in my own life. I have since re-read it (and the follow-up trilogy, "A Requiem for Homo Sapiens") several times, and each time I discover new aspects and concepts that I previously missed.

The scope of the book is breathtaking, the prose immersive, and the dialogue and evolution of the characters has a kind of "real" quality to it that is immensely appealing. Zindell seems to have an effective way of portraying the inner world of Mallory in particular, conveying a sense of the character's feelings in any given situation rather than just describing a train of thought. Characters like Bardo also provide a warm and humorous counterpoint to some of the other characters like the manipulative Moira Ringess and the sullen, brooding Leopold Soli. The conceptual world is also extremely varied. More than once, the reader will probably find themselves wondering, "How did he come up with THAT idea?"

The spiritual aspect spirals through the writing like a coil of DNA. Zindell apparently has a degree in Mathematics, and I'm surprised he doesn't have one in Philosophy as well. References to Eastern and Western philosophies and belief systems abound in this book; one that particularly tickled my fancy was the slightly modified version of Gurdjieff's parable of the "Evil Magician and his sheep".

This book is like a meal - some will devour it and look forward to seconds, others will find it too rich and dense to be palatable. The mythic, epic scale of the story may also dissuade those who find such things "cliche" or "overblown". Well, there's plenty of other science fiction books out there for cynics and killjoys, but few out there as profoundly deep and inspiring as this (and especially the follow up "Requiem" series).

If you love Science Fiction and the Hero Mythos, you'll love this book. If you love Science Fiction, you'll probably at least like it. Highly recommended!

On my top ten list
Flat out one of the best sci fi books I've ever read. Gives a distinct sense of the eternal, frequently triumphant. If you want to read a book that gives a sense of the amazing skill a human is capable of, this is a good one to start with. The rest of the series doesn't disappoint.

Memorable, sweeping sci-fi
I'd actually nearly finished reading Zindell's "Requiem for Homo Sapiens" trilogy before realizing that:
a) There exists a prequel known as Neverness that I should have read before the trilogy.
b) The reviews of Neverness here are for the most part very very positive.
c) The book had already been sitting on my shelf for a couple years.Oops!!

Well, when compared with the sequel trilogy, Neverness is clearly the work of a less mature Zindell but it makes up for that by moving at a faster pace and bringing the story to a somewhat better close.We also have to keep in mind that the brilliantly rendered setting explored in the trilogy was given 90% of its conceptual basis here in this novel.Zindell truly creates a new universe with Neverness, nearly on par with Dune.That alone makes it an astonishing effort in my mind, even though I would rate the story itself at four stars.It's a great story but there are quite a few holes in the plot, such as how exactly the Ieldra & the Elder Eddas are relevant to anything.Also, the many forays into mathematics were too obviously contrived and just came off as plain silly to me.

The book is quite long at 552 pages in the paperback version, but reads quickly and includes many memorable scenes.A couple that come to mind include the ultimate fate of Katherine, Mallory & Soli's pursuit of the Timekeeper, and Bardo's hilarious issues with tumescence.

I recommend Neverness highly.It pretends to be deeper than it really is (it can't compare to Dune IMO), but Zindell conceives and crafts such a beautiful alternate reality that it's really a must read for sci-fi fans.

Not Free SF Reader
A story quite in the Moorcockian style of things. The adventures of Mallory-Ringess, pilot-mathematician, you could call it. If Jerry Cornelius turned up here, nobody would blink an eye, I think. With shades of the Spacing Guild starfaring as religion stuff thrown in. Of course, there is a big conspiracy or secret at the heart of it. ... Read more

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Genetically altered, like others of his tribe, to lead a primitive existence in Icefall, Danlo is forced to give up his simple life and journey to the fabled city of Neverness when his tribe is ravaged by a plague. ... Read more

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Couldn't get past his "Membrum".
Although this book has it's moments and is a fairly good read, I can't recommend it. It seemed to me that the author is obsessed with Danlo's "membrum". I have never read a book that overused one particular word so much or dedicated so many pages to his main characters penis. Or maybe, the author thought it was a clever word he made up and decided to make the most of it. At times I told myself that if he uses that word again more than three times on one page, I would just have to lay it down and walk away. Maybe I just failed to recognize the significance or symbolism of Danlo's "membrum", but I really got tired of reading about it. The book also contradicts itself several times which was distracting and took me out of the story yet again. So, if you don't mind reading about "membrums", this book may be for you, as I said ealier, it is a decent read. Just be aware of this before you buy it.

Chalk Zindell up to the top rank
The six original Dune novels and Asimov's Robot, Empire, and Foundation series generally constitute the finest space science fiction I've read.Simmons' first two Hyperion novels make it up there as well.The Broken God easily ranks with these greats.

I'll echo other reviewers: Zindell's prose reminds me of Herbert's Dune.Almost eerily imaginative and convincing.He crafts a world, a universe actually, and makes it believable.No need to summarize the setting and plot here, the Amazon blurb covers it pretty well.What can I say, it's a very well-crafted, well-written science fiction novel.Vastly underrated.I believe it's out of print now due to lack of sales, but you can get it second-hand though unfortunately you might have to pay an arm and a leg even for the paperback.If you're a sci-fi buff, it will almost certainly give you many hours of enjoyment.

The only nit I have to pick is that Danlo is not a fantastic rendering for a protagonist.He's too upstanding and purely good.I feel that had Zindell added a couple minor flaws to his character the novel would have turned out even better.At this point I've read the sequel The Wild and I can say that though I enjoyed it greatly, Danlo behaves even more perfect and inhuman and I think this detracted from the novel.Who knows, perhaps the final novel War in Heaven will reveal a flaw in his character.I'm hoping....

Poignant and prophetic
Warning: this book is not for the all-action-no thinking-sci-fireaders. You find here beautiful word construction, great characterization and splendid athmospheres. The characters of Danlo the Wild, tortured yet innocent soul, of his friend Hanuman,haunted by his own interior ghosts, of the falstaffian Bardo, will remain in your memory. Here you will find reflections on human destiny, theimplications of genetic and cybernetics, reflections on humand destiny and of the universe. Echoes of Douglas Adams, Neal Stephenson, Iain Banks andIsaac Asimov reverberate through this wonderful novel.(Not to mention that the Borja School chapters have a distinct harrypotteresque feel...and Danlo finds himself with a lightning scar on his forehead(!).This novel is real food for the soul, and whilst it could have been a bit less verbose, and some reflections may verge on the obvious (religions develops in directions their founders didn't foresee ... what else is new?), this book will make you think, whilst entertaining you with a magnificent story. And some notations on human alienation and the perils of religious dogmatism are very prophetics and actual. A must read!

splendid
This has been one of my favourite books for a long time. Loved it. Just a note for those looking for out-of-print Zindell work - Neverness etc - hop on over to amazon.co.uk where they are all very much *in* print. His newer books ( not up to the standard of this one unfortunately ) seem to be released earlier in the UK as well. Weird for an American author.

great book, series could be greater?
4.5 Stars. I read this book before I read Neverness.I wouldn't say I regret it, but for those looking around for a good book, I reccomend checking it out first.It's not a must, but I think a lot of insight into Danlo and some other characters would be gained while reading "The Broken God."There isn't much to say about this book that hasn't been said, but if you're like the kind of books I do- epic universes, interesting characters, and cool tech that isn't the focus of the story.I think this book could please people with lots of different sci-fi tastes.The only bummer is that the sequel- The Wild- costs a whopping $27 for the paperback here on Amazon. Not sure what the deal is with that, but it's holding me back from reading on in this great series. ... Read more

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terrific good vs. evil fantasy
While much of the large island landmass Ea has fallen under the evil spell of the Lord of Lies Morjin, King Kiritan of Alonia selects Prince Valashu "Val" Elahad to begin a quest to obtain THE LIGHTSTONE Cup of Heaven before Morjin finds it.Val carefully heeds the prophecy in order to prevent Morjin from freeing the Lord of Lies.This seventh son of the ruler of Mesh successfully assembled his magnificent seven and retrieved the Sword of Fate Alkaladur (see THE LIGHTSTONE).

Val and his team begin the second trek of their quest which is more dangerous as they must enter dark lands under Morjin's malevolent control.Using the Alkaladur's glowing gelstei magical gem as a guide, the magnificent seven fight the enemy horde until they reach their second major stop, the Library of Khaisham, where they learn the location of the Lightstone.To his consternation and fear, Val realizes that the journey ends in the darkest place in the island, Morjin's underground city of Argattha; he expects to confront the evil face to face with only one leaving alive in possession of the Lightstone.He does not yet understand that dead has an entirely different meaning when the Lord of Lies is the power behind the throne as allies are traitors and war between the Kingdoms of Ishka and Mesh is imminent.

The action picks up in the second Lightstone saga as the magnificent seven's quest takes them behind enemy lines.However, the increase in daring deeds comes at the cost of the fascinating sidebars that made the first tale unique such as the minstrels' ballads providing the history of the island and the words of the ancient prophecy.Still Val and his crew display their valor as the escapades never stop.David Zindell's sequel is a terrific good vs. evil fantasy with a fabulous finish.

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A galactic search for the truth fires this magnificent epic of war and discovery on both a human and cosmic scale.The Wild: a chaotic place where ten elite lightship pilots dared to venture. A place where one of those pilots, Danlo wi Soli Ringess, will learn the fate of his father. Did Mallory Ringess die during that first expedition to the Wild? Or did he become a god? Opinions vary, but Danlo's search is focused on one objective: the truth. It is a truth that will not only reveal his father's assassin, but could also lay bare the secret to a killer virus that only Danlo survived.


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Maintains the quality of the first
I thought the prequel The Broken God was excellent.This one is just as good.The pages keep turning and new concepts and imaginative prose keep flowing.In The Wild, we follow Danlo off Neverness and into space as he sets off on his Order's mission to:Learn why an ancient religious cult is destroying entire star systems by supernova and then convince them to stop.A tall order.Danlo doesn't quite accomplish it, hence the sequel War in Heaven.

There's more philosophy in this one than in The Broken God.About as much action, which isn't saying much since with Zindell the action tends to come in short and intense bursts separated by long periods of peace and quiet.Lots of space travel and several very different alien worlds visited.

I believe that as with The Broken God, this book is out print and selling for exhorbitant prices on the second-hand market.See if you can get lucky on eBay or something, it's really worth the read.

I can't wait to read the sequel so I can learn how the gods do battle!

The best of all the Neverness books
While "Neverness" beats this novel for originality, this one is better in every other way. The author is now more polished there is more of what I liked about the Neverness universe presented in this book. Mostly, we see Danlo's search for the God Ede, which leads him to system after system in what is certainly a quest for the holy grail.

I feel that if you liked the other Neverness books, or any other books by Zindell, you will also like this book.

I don't think that there are any other authors who capture the feel of these novels, only Frank Herbert is close in his Dune series. I feel that Zindell is actually better though. I'm sure that many would disagree, but you don't see an author like Zindell very often, and I feel he should be given his due.

If you thought there was lots o' thinking in the LAST book
Zindell takes them up another notch here, both increasing the "philosophy" department and the "science-fiction" department at the same time.Here, Danlo (our hero) ventures into the Vild with a bunch of other Pilots in an attempt to find a cure to the disease that might just ravage his people . . . and maybe in the process find out just what his father became, if he's even still alive.And to say that this just scratches the surface of the stuff that's going here isn't any hyperbole at all.Before the quest is over (if it really ends) Danlo will find himself talking to gods, visiting strange worlds, playing a game of wits with an assassin and basically trying to avoid getting killed by basically not trying to avoid getting killed (it makes more sense in the book).It's a change of pace from the last book on the surface only, there's more science-fictional elements but since Danlo is visiting different cultures with different technologies it's perhaps inevitable and Zindell throws out enough ideas to give a horde of other writers enough meat to work with for years.At the same time, the philosophy has become more cutting, I think Zindell is hiding some of his own comments on various subjects, religion in particular, or even just having too much belief in any one thing.Danlo remains as fun as ever, though it is becoming a bit of a running joke that he tends to answer everyone's questions with questions of his own, but hey, it's part of the fun.Most of the characters are well rounded, more than just mouthpieces for various arguments (most of them at least) . . . if there's anyone I could compare this too, it'd have to be Isaac Asimov, since at the core his novels always were two people debating some highbrow concept for a bunch of pages . . . while at the same time there was very little action.Same here.If you want rampaging shoot 'em ups with bodies piled everywhere and wild careening space fights and people saying things like "So, Zolar, we meet again", this isn't the place to look.However if you want a brooding, thoughtful SF epic that might just stimulate the brain cells a bit and make you care about the wacky people infesting this book, well here you go.It's right here.

Another beautiful book in this epic series.
Zindell carries on from where he left off with The Broken God with his usual and ummatched blend of great plot, interesting characters (my favourite being the Warrior-Poet), stunning imagination and more beautiful prose all intermingled with mathematics and philosophy. Simply awesome.

Wow!! Even better than his previous 3 books!
I've read Zindell's previous 2 books - Neverness and The Broken God - andI didn't think it would be possible, but he improved even on those two.This book, The Wild, is probably a little more science-fictionesque thanthe other two, since Danlo visits some worlds where the technology is moreadvanced (and more a part of the plot) than on Danlo's home planet ofNeverness, where the other two books take place. But since I'm a hardsci-fi fan, that to me was good. The previous reader maybe has a point withthere being a lot of philosophy, but I didn't find that overbearing - itjust seems to be a part of Danlo's persona, to think about that kind ofthing a lot. But of all things about this book (and the other two), Zindelldoes a great job of making Danlo to be a likeable and even admirablecharacter, with just enough flaws to make him seem human. Can't wait toread the last one in the series. ... Read more

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make it stop
I wanted to tear my eyes out after 25 pages of this drivel. Literally, as there is something very irritating about the dense and crabby little font in which this paperback is printed that magnifies the grating "voice" of the protagonist Val's mewling introspection. While trying to gut it out for few more pages, I found myself fantasizing about grading my student's papers rather than continue reading this book.

LFMF: I had hurriedly picked up one of the other titles in the series in an airport bookstore only to realize en-route that it wasn't the first book of the trilogy. So when I got home I ordered the rest of the trilogy without doing my due diligence here on Amazon. And like buying a used car without first checking it out, this rusted out collection of fantasy cliches ("the table groaned under the weight of the food") would have been better served by being tossed in the nearest junk yard.
Note to self: When the number of less-than-stellar reviews is equal or greater than the 4/5 star reviews, it should tell one something.

A Zindellian Grail Quest
This book reads like Zindell's re-imagining of the Holy Grail myth, with some character types and ideas taken from his Neverness sf series. The book is mostly fantasy, but there are echoes of science fiction in it; for example, in the book there's talk about life on other planets. Besides this intriguing mix of genres, there's Zindell's preoccupation with mystical and with spiritual ideas.

I have some relatively minor issues with Zindell's overuse of certain words and images (diamonds, light, fire). These are minor in that they only give further evidence of his earnestness in producing a spiritual epic. While he also writes many thought-provoking lines, what's most distinctive about a Zindell story, I think, is its spirituality. The Lightstone isn't entirely original (there are hints of Lord of the Rings), but Zindell has reworked some archetypes and classic plot devices in his own way. There's also the strangeness of the characters speaking of nine kingdoms despite the map showing only eight. Perhaps the ninth kingdom is all of them put together?

For those who say there's nothing original in the Lightstone, here's a quotation of Zindell from an interview with him: "The 'Ea Cycle' is a grail quest. It's set in a secondary world which is also a secondary universe, something I haven't seen too much in fantasy, though it's like Moorcock's 'Multiverse,' tying his work together. My fantasy is probably more like a traditional science fictional structure, in that there's a secondary world, and there are other magical secondary worlds around other stars, in much the same way a science fiction universe would be set up....There's an angelic race, then an archangelic race, and a race that's higher than they are. And there's this great galactic civilization. It's not a technological one; it's a magical civilization, but the magic is not 'wizard and elves'; it's more like 'deep structure of the universe.' Built into that structure is the idea that there's an evolutionary progression from lower beings to star people, to immortal beings that would be like angels (though I don't call them angels), to archangels, to kind of an increate race that imbues its life force, its consciousness, into creating universes - of which my universe is one. So there are some very deep structures and a sense of hugeness." Again, what distinguishes a Zindell story are his ideas about transcendence and spirituality.

The bottom line for me is that this book passed the ultimate test: I cared about the main characters and was eager to keep reading until I finished the book. Note: I read the two-volume UK edition, which I think the author revised for the American edition.

I'm sorry I read this (really)
I had some anticipation that Zindell would carry over the originality he showed in his four NEVERNESStitles to this one.

I read all of it, and began hating it after about page 50. It collects all the trite elements of several series and popular novels and adds nothing orignal to the story that would make it it's own story.

It is void of orignality. It is a collection of fantasy novel cliche's, and they all irritate. It would have been different if this book was a parody.

Volume one of a series? I won't buy them, or read them.

A huge disapointment.

Yes, what the heck DIDhappen to Zindell?
One(why only one!?) of the earlier reviewers said this book was awful-- but that person thought Neverness was even worse, so I don't know where he's coming from.In my opinion, Neverness, and most of Zindell's other early work, was excellent, awesome, very original, downright significant.This book, on the other hand, is pretty bad, at least by comparison.It's a great disappointment to someone who who was blown away by Neverness and very impressed by War in Heaven.

There are a few fantasy authors that are original and outstanding, like Tolkien, Eddison, Le Guin; there's a lot of sheer garbage; and there are somein between,pretty good/not too bad, but not on the level of Tolkien or Le Guin.
In Neverness, I think Zindell was right up there (although it's not exactly fantasy, having a lot of hard SF elements).In this book, there are egregious elements of shlock, but he's basically a very talented writer, and he can still write sentences and paragraphs and dialog, so the book is borderline readable; it's kind of on the border between shlock and not-too-bad.But coming from Zindell, a really talented writer, it's pathetic.

It is very trite, formulaic and predictable, that's for sure, and many of the plot incidents are very contrived; for instance, the hero breaks his sword fighting a monster, he's all broken up about it, goes a chapter or two without needing a weapon, and then gets a magic sword from, guess who?The Lady of the Lake, I kid you not.

The characters are recycled from the Neverness series and LOTR (Grays=Black Riders, Kane=Strider, Rumbum or whatever his name is=Bardo), the story is a rehash of LOTR and King Arthur.Oh, and the lead character gets poisoned with a poison that burns and stings for the rest of his life, just like in Neverness.Most of the names are taken from Buddhism, Zorastrianism, and other wildly diverse sources.The plot is a mishmash ofKing Arthur and LOTR.

In two appendices, Zindell drones on about the (unillustrated, and irrelevant to the plot) heraldry of the Nine Kingdoms (which, no matter how many times I count them, on the map, or in the appendix, are only Eight!), and about 16 several sorts of magic colored gemstones (zzzz...).Better he should have put the energy into counting his kingdoms and developing some original ideas.

I don't know what Zindell was trying to do with all these borrowed names and concepts.I don't think it was just laziness; maybe he was trying to make some kind of parody or homage, as others have suggested.It doesn't work.It's NOT a "rich fantasy world"; it's like a Salvation Army store of worn-out junk and faded glories, all crowded and jumbled together.

One thing that could have been really interesting is that the hero is a warrior who, because of his empathic talent, can't hurt or kill anyone without being prostrated by the victim's pain, so he vows not to kill anyone, while becoming betrothed to a woman named Manslayer who has vowed to kill a hundred (honest!).But he kills people anyway, and pretty soon it doesn't even seem to bother him much anymore, a total waste of the one original idea in the book, and one that could have been very fruitful.

I have to think something HAS happened to Zindell--mental illness, drug addiction, something like that.Otherwise, I have to think he could at least get the count of kingdoms right (you may think I'm harping on this, but he mentions these Nine Kingdoms many times, even though only a couple figure in the plot, so I really think there ought to be nine of them).Or he could have come up with some original ideas and new characters.

I made it through the book, but I'm not going to bother with the others in the series. I hope Zindell feels better, and approaches his previous standards in the future.

Decent book
Enjoyable reading for me, but very cliched.I understand this book is a re-issue/re-edit of an older story/series.I havent been able to find out from the publisher if they are going to continue the series. ... Read more

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From the author of Neverness comes a powerful new epic fantasy series. The Ea Cycle is as rich as Tolkien and as magical as the Arthurian myths Valashu Elahad rescued the Lightstone from the dark hell of the enemy's own city, only to have his triumph overturned. Once more the Lord of Lies has the sacred gem in his possession and its power is invincible. Val burns with shame. Treachery surrounds him. His only hope is the Black Jade that lies buried in the heart of a cursed and blighted forest, forgotten since the War of the Stone. Through this, the greatest black gelstei ever created, Val will seek to understand the darkness inside himself so that he can use evil to fight evil. If he does not, the world will fall into final corruption as the Dark Universe of the Lord of Lies. In either case, evil prevails. But Val must risk everything, even his soul. The stakes are too high for anything less. Val is the Guardian of the Lightstone until a new master is made known, that person who will rightfully wield its power. Should Val find the sacred gem and take it for himself, he will become a new Red Dragon, only mightier and more terrible than the Lord of Lies. ... Read more

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An amazing trilogy, just the beginning

Lord of Lies

The world of Ea is a fascinating place.

The quest for the mythical Lightstone had brought more trouble to the kindgom.Valashu Elahad, the 7th prince of the house of Mesh, forsook his quest for knowledge for the sword and leadership of his companions.The Dark Angel Morijin has battled against Val, only to lose the object he sought.The sacred cup of Light is desired by Morijin, and yet guarded by Val.As the forces build against him, he begins to understand the magnitude of the battle he must face.His strength of character and judgement must be sound to survive what must come, the final conflict over the cup of Light.Power is nothing without temptation!

David Zindell weaves a magical tale bursting with narrative energy.His deeply hypnotic style turns the literary into imaginary, `live' images dancing on the tapestry of our imagination. I was drawn into the battle as the family of Mesh, led by Val (and the sword of sight) finally overcomes Morijin, but losing the stone.Remembering Morijin as a `man with golden eyes and a smile like the sun, beautiful in form and face.', he learns that the contrast between deception and the truth is strong Lessons can sometimes only be taught through loss.Such are those that Valashu learns.Compassion and Revenge are two sides of the same wolf.Feed one, and that side will thrive, feed the other, and the other suffers.

The 3rd book of the world of Ea sets up the next series.The quest for the Lord of Light and the Lightstone (again) will be a marvelous search, and three more delightful novels.

Look for these at your local book store or online at www.tor-forge.com.

Tim Lasiuta

entertaining Tolkien (some might say early Robert Jordan) quest thriller
The seventh son of the King of Mesh, Valashu "Val" Elahad uses the ancient sword Alakaladur.However, he and his bone tired friends come home for some needed rest and recuperation after their traumatic but successful adventures to recover the powerful LIGHTSTONE golden cup.They hope the outcome of their quest leads to peace and prosperity for the kingdoms of Ea as prophesized.

Now that he is home, Val knows the next step is to figure out how to release the power of the Lightstone.He knows that something or someone named Maitreya is the source, but who or what remains an enigma while he has doubts about his inner strength to remain virtuous; failure to do so by him or his inner circle means defeat.While he and his team begin the second part of their quest to find a prophet who can either point them to Maitreya or better yet release the power, the dark lord Morjin, angry over his recent loss to Val, plans to steal the Lightstone and kill those who recently defeated him.

The third Ea fantasy (see THE LIGHTSTONE and THE SILVER SWORD) is an entertaining Tolkien (some might say early Robert Jordan) quest thriller.The keys, as with the previous entries, are the vivid details that make the Ea continent seem genuine and the hero; especially the latter although he comes out of the fantasy quest type casting.Although the rest of the players are one dimensional including Morjin the angry who lost some depth since his previous appearances, fans will appreciate the well written LORD OF LIES.

Harriet Klausner

Lord of Lies
Another great book in the Lightstone series! Wonderful characters and a unique story made this a most enjoyable book and as in all great books I was distressed to have it end. I am eagerly awaiting the next book in the series having ordered it shortly after finishing the Lightstone. I cannot say enough about this author and am still puzzled that I could have missed his work for so long. This series goes to the top of my favorites.

Lord of Lies
The Lord of Lies is the second book in Zindell's ambitious epic fantasy.It leads straight on from the Lightstone and though it's a much shorter book than LS, it doesn't lack any of the imagery and story.
The plot of the series seems one that's been done before, obviously Lord of the Rings has an influence and so do many other books in the genre seem to ring a tune throughout, but, Zindell still brings a richness of original story and imagination not to mention brilliant characterization that he weaves into one of the most ripping epics I've ever read.I could tell you more, but am afraid to spoil the plot.
As I write this, I'm just getting into the 3rd book Black Jade, and it is blowing me away.This series is NOT becoming bland or stale like some other epics floating around at the moment and it appears that it may finish in 4 installments.That would be enough I'd think.
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RETURN OF THE PRODIGAL SON

Danlo wi Soli Ringess has returned from the Vild, the first lightship pilot to escape that hellish region of fractured space and deadly supernovas where giant computer-gods make war on each other.

But the Civilized Worlds face their own threat of war. A fanatical cult has seized the fabled city of Neverness and plans to take over the galaxy. Though the cult worships Danlo's long-lost father as a god, he casts his lot with its opponents--and is sent to Neverness to try to reason with its leaders. Instead he must fight to survive: against the warrior-poet who has vowed to take his life, the madman with a star-killing weapon and a grim ultimatum, the charismatic leader of the cult--once Danlo's greatest friend, now his fiercest enemy--and his own unbreakable vow never to harm a living thing.

A contemporary master of speculative fiction and incomparable world-building, David Zindell continues his monumental epic that sweeps us from the outer reaches of the galaxy to the inner depths of the human mind, a stirring cosmic drama of a man of peace torn between the implacable cosmic forces of divinity and destruction.

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Ah Hanuman
The only thing wrong with this book is that it is not Neverness.When you start the series with a 100, it is impossible to top it.Oh, but this book shines on it's own.I cannot put into words how much I love Hanuman.Of all the villains in all the books I've ever read, he is my favorite. How can we really fault him the desire for transcendence, even if he threatens to take everyone else out while doing it.He is mad, yet beautiful.

Unlike most novels, this is deep.You will be touched and you will carry it with you for life.

War in Heaven
It is disappointing that Zindell is not widely known and recognized as one of the greatest writers of all time.His books open one's mind to new ideas and ways of thinking on almost every page.This is not the regurgitated pap that we see in most science fiction."War in Heaven" is not the crown jewel of the trilogy, that honor would have to go to "The Broken God," but it still leaves all your questions answered and is an excellent conclusion to a remarkable set of books, even if the pacing is a bit slower than the first two books in the trilogy. Be prepared for more dramatic plot twists and a rather unexpected ending. After reading this book, you will wonder why "Neverness", "The Wild", and "War in Heaven" are no longer in print. If you like Frank Herbert or Gene Wolfe, Zindell's books are a must read.Get them while you can.

Back to Neverness
"War In Heaven" isn't really aptly named.The city of Neverness and environs is the setting for most of the novel, rather than out in space.We already knew from the prequel "The Wild" that a galaxy spanning war had been fought for centuries between the gods led by the The Silicon God on one side and those led by the Solid State Entity on the other.So I expected this final book of the series to describe the involvement of the main protagonists (Danlo, Hanuman, Bardo, etc) in the war between the gods and a final end to the Silicon God's reign.

Instead the "war" in this book doesn't involve the gods at all.It refers simply to the large scale conflict between the opposing sides that Hanuman and Danlo have taken.Hanuman has risen to the leadership of the Ringist cult, which during Danlo's absence from Neverness has come to effectively rule the Order.Danlo is now a highly respected member of the Fellowship of Free Worlds, which is a consortium of pilots that have vowed to end the viral spread and poisonous teachings of Ringism.Danlo returns to Neverness to try to bring a peaceful end to the conflict, to reason with Hanuman.Well, things don't quite go as planned and it's a long, bloody road ahead before the conflict is resolved.

It's a solid novel, a great mix of adventure, intrigue, and philosophy.Also, a truly climactic conclusion and then a surprise twist at the very end.The main reasons I mark it down from the five stars I gave the prequels are:

- Larger conflict of the true "war in heaven" between the gods unresolved, and indeed, completely ignored.The final pages hint that the stage is now set for the battle to be taken to the Silicon God, not sure if that implies a sequel or not.Apparently not, since it's been ten years already since publication of this book.

- Zindell's flowery prose impressed me in the first two novels but started to wear me down in this book.It could have been shortened considerably.Too many distracting digressions.

Simply astounding and mind boggling !
My last two weeks have been most stimulating as I finished this remarkable series. From the first book, "Neverness" to "The Broken God" to "The Wild" and finally "War in Heaven", I just could not put the series down. Yes there are times when Zindell tend to be repetitive in his philosophical views but the intensity of the story and characters more than makes up for it. "Neverness" is simply exquisite with spectacular world building and intriguing characters. The protagonist, Mallory, a brilliant and complex personality is definitely one sci-fi character I will remember. "The Broken God" is simply profound though at times Zindell tends to be overboard with his philosophical views. At first I miss Mallory's narration as the first person. However by the middle of "The Broken God", I found myself engrossed with Danlo's fate and liking this protagonist immensely. From the negative reviews of "The Broken God", I perceive that some readers have stopped reading the series due to the slow pace of "The Broken God". That is a real pity because no sci-fi die-heart should miss "The Wild". Here Zindell displays his remarkable world building skills and vivid imagination once again. The pace here is fast and I found myself imprisoned by Danlo's adventures. "War in Heaven" is equally though provoking and captivating. Danlo's loss here is intensely written and I found myself moved to tears. "War in Heaven" is a sastisfying conclusion to the series as Danlo completes his soul searching and finally "sees" his role in the universe or should I say universes. As usual with any great stories, I am sad that the end comes too quickly. I will miss Danlo, Mallory, Soli, Bardo and the Solid State Entity but am glad to have discovered Zindell's world. I am please to add Zindell to my list of must read writers and look forward to reading his new fantasy series. It is a pity that this brilliant writer is not more widely recognized.

You're kidding, right?
The book started off great: gods fighting, the forces of mankind gathering for a war, the ranks of the pilots arrayed in a splendor of colors.So far, the book was matching the quality I found in 'Neverness'.
And then Danlo gets to Neverness, and the author throws the brakes on.There's only so many times I can be told about the starlight blazing out of people's eyes before I start to roll my own eyes.We're told that Danlo is as wild as wild can be, and has an unbreakable will, but in action, he's meek and mild.The vow of ahimsa he's taken which prevents him from harming any living thing is like a boulder around the narrative's neck: it took Danlo three chapters to man up and go kill something to feed his starving kid.And then the kid dies anyway.
The other thing that pissed me off was the interminable, repetitive philosophizing interspersed with descriptions of infinite fire and light in the universe.
I had to force myself to grind through the last twenty pages because I was so tired of reading about Danlo's eyes blazing away.The notions seemed a poor mimickry of Frank Herbert's ideas, in review.The author definitely has a vivid imagination, but he should have mixed things up a little bit more. ... Read more

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